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TOPIC: Why Did Our KC Regress?
Anonymous

Date: Mon Mar 7 3:49 PM, 2005
Why Did Our KC Regress?
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Gabe posted the following:

RE: KC Regression!!!

"I'm the Gabe whose site QuintriX came across. I was recently invited by Sajeev to join this community. I'm glad to see there's a resource for all of us to come together and share our stories.

For the record, I've never worn contact lenses. I tried them on once at the doctor's office, but they were not comfortable and did not yield any better vision vs. glasses, so I've stuck to glasses.

As mentioned on my Web site, I was diagnosed with KC in 2000 and learned of its regression in 2003. I was thrilled.

Some thoughts on the regression:

- positive thinking
- eating well (I'm mostly vegetarian, though I do eat fish and occasional white meat)

One thing I do worry about, though, is my job, which requires that I spend the entire day in front of the computer. I try to take frequent breaks and get away as much as possible, but perhaps in the future I will change careers to something less straining on the eyes."

-Gabe

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Date: Mon Mar 7 4:17 PM, 2005
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A warm welcome to the forum Gabe , I'm starting this new topic...to explore any common link to why our KC regressed?

I have not thought of what questions to ask yet....but i do agree that I do think positively. I have been working out for the past year, including eating more healthly and lost weight doing so. The only thing which has changed due to this (measurable medically) is my blood pressure which is lower than it used to be. I know that if pressure in your eye is lower, that it is better for your KC (less pressure on the weakened cornea)

I do beleive in anti-oxidents found in vegatables, because they can help the body to fight off oxidative damage.

Yes Gabe thinking about it I do have a question for you to "kick off" with on this little project...have you had or have any other medical conditions...so that we can eliminate that from our enquiry?

-- Edited by QuintriX at 17:24, 2005-03-07

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Date: Thu Mar 10 1:39 PM, 2005
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Thanks for the warm welcome! It's interesting that you mention having low blood pressure. I'm sure that I do.

I don't have any other medical conditions. I developed asthma for a time as a result of being exposed to some toxins in the air at a former workplace, but it's basically gone and I no longer take any medication for it.

KC aside, I'm very healthy. I don't work out probably as much as I should, though I walk regularly (having two dogs necessitates that!) and ski during the winters.

-Gabe

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Date: Thu Mar 10 2:56 PM, 2005
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Hello Gabe and Quintrix
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For now three months, I've taken some anti-oxident food. I saw the doctor this morning and he said:"Do you have keratoconus? You have a big astigmatism, but I'm not sure that you have keratoconus...".
Some doctors have diagnosed to me Keratoconus in 2001....
I have an article which explains the function of anti-oxident in the case of keratoconus.
I will send you this soon. My english is not very good. Sorry for this,
Best wishes for all,
Phil


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Anonymous

Date: Thu Mar 10 4:31 PM, 2005
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Welcome to the forum Fil....any input is most welcome...Hopfully your doctor can further give you more advice on this...


Gabe...I know the pressure in someones eye (I think) can vary with their blood pressure with there eye...thats if the person has abnormal eye pressure...but in the whole for a normal person i think a normal blood pressure should be ok...but it does not hurt to check your eye pressure out as well...if possible...to see if it ok... You know when I went a saw a top surgeon (DR Daya) the first thing he asked was do you have allergies or asthma (not forgetting asthma being an allergic reaction)...I think eyes are very sensitive (they have to be, to pick up information so that we can see)


Gabe...did you get the bout of asthma before you got kc at all...I remember I was in a very dusty loft of a building for a survey for a few days..I don't know if the dust caused anything to my eyes... But certainly there is a link between kc and allergies.... If you read the next quote....I think the area we can narrow down on can be maybe more clearly seen....


"Cornea disease, which can lead to blindness, is often caused by genetic conditions, the effects of ultraviolet rays, infections or accidents."


Now kc being a rare illness of the eye i think the causes lay somewhere in the above quote.... Prof. Lombardi also talks of infections (and of course allergents infecting the eye being part of that...and a weakened cornea which increases kc symtoms)


The quote above was taken from the link below...


http://society.guardian.co.uk/health/story/0,7890,1288736,00.html

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-- Edited by QuintriX at 03:40, 2005-03-11

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Date: Fri Mar 11 8:48 AM, 2005
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Hi Phil,

what kind of antioxidant do you use? Maybe OPC?
(Information about OPC: http://www.bauer-seeds.com/index.html)

Best regards
Norbert

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Date: Fri Mar 11 1:35 PM, 2005
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Thanks for that Norbert (for people who did not know there is a icon on that link to translate to english).....You know i was reading a book called "the optium diet"...it was talking basically about our bodies being the same as in caveman times...and so that we should eat the same as them....they used to eat a lot of nuts, berries and the farming of lets say wheat was not invented (which the Atkins diet says to leave out carbohydrates as its just sugur and fat). Humans come from costal areas and as such the main diet used to be fish....lol...sorry about all this extra info...lol

Another thing...i did have a thyroid problem....which was uncontrolled for many years....when readying about it did say about ensyem problems (ensyem..being protein which is also talked about with kc) and eye problems like blurness....also i did read about with and thyroid problem it is harder for the body to repair it self....may be after oxident damage...but once your tyroid problem is sorted out then everything goes back to normal....having said that i did read somewhere that if you damage (may be physical damage??) your cornes it can not heal like the other parts of your body as it has not blood vessels...

I don't know if it is true but i did (Again) read that the cornea is only 5 cells thick?...I don't know if that makes a difference...if just a few die due to cell death...which we have read about on this forum...

Most importantly I did also read that sub-clinical tyroid problems can have symtoms talked about already on this post plus dry skin...so i think it is a good idea to have a tyroid function test done....if i come across the links i read all this in i will post it here...

But certainly anti-oxidents do help to repair the body and keep it healthy.


-- Edited by QuintriX at 13:37, 2005-03-11

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Date: Fri Mar 11 3:27 PM, 2005
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Hello Norbert and Quintrix,

Quintrix:
the cornea has five layers (endothelium, Descemet's membrane, stroma, Bowman's membrane, and epithelium) and it's thickness is 5 millimeters at the center. The cornea has not only five cells of thickness.
Norbert:
I take blueberry, carott, orange, green tea, tomatoes, salad, etc......
I will send you an article called "the cascade hypothesis of keratoconus".
You can see the article (without the pictures, I'm sorry), at:
http://www.v2f.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=506
Good week-end for all.


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